dotaz k traceru LPIS

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dotaz k traceru LPIS

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  1. Zdeněk Pražák ZPrazak na seznam.cz #m8ab04b
    stalo se něco s tracerem LPIS? Chtěl jsem pokračovat ve tvorbě polí, ale tracer lpis mi nově vytvořená pole netaguje tagy landuse, farmland, případně meadow atd nýbrž pouze tagy ref a source lpis od včerejška jsem nic v josm neměnil jak to mám opravit
  2. honny honnycze na gmail.com #mb68fdc
    Muzu potvrdit i tady, zrejme neco na zdroji? Bohuzel nemam nikde ulozene puvodni odpovedi, takze neporovnam. :) h.
  3. Marián Kyral mkyral na email.cz #md83869
    Muzu potvrdit i tady, zrejme neco na zdroji? Bohuzel nemam nikde ulozene puvodni odpovedi, takze neporovnam. :) h.
    Ano. Z LPIS_FB4_01 zase udělali LPIS_FB4. Jak u blbých ;-) Opravil jsem, JOSM by měl u Tracer-testing nabídnout novou verzi. Marián
  4. Zdeněk Pražák ZPrazak na seznam.cz #m80a40c
    Bohužel mi josm nenabídl aktualizaci a při volbě aktualizace pluginů mi píše že tracer testing je aktuální Pražák
  5. Marián Kyral mkyral na email.cz #mc7135f
    Zkus chvíli počkat (10min). Mně se nainstalovala funkční verze. Ale možná to sebral odněkud z cache. Netuším, jak přesně to funguje. Tohle ještě nemám vychytané. Pokud to nezabere, zkus to stáhnout přímo: http://osm.kyralovi.cz/bin/Tracer-testing.jar Marián
  6. Zdeněk Pražák zprazak na seznam.cz #m017318
    tak ani po půlhodině mi josm nenabídl aktualizace a tak jsem si ji tedy stáhl od tebe díky
  7. Marián Kyral mkyral na email.cz #mfdb7e7
    Tak už jsem zjistil, kde je problém. Ono se totiž číslo verze bralo z posledního commitu do svn. A protože svn nepoužívám, ale používám git, tak tam bylo pořád stejné číslo. Mírně jsem upravil build scripty a teď už by JOSM měl (mělo?) nabídnout aktualizaci na verzi 1410728592. Marián
  8. Zdeněk Pražák ZPrazak na seznam.cz #m3fa704
    chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda se něco nezměnilo v nastavení traceru LPIS Používám JOSM verze 14177 a když si zvolím vrstvu LPIS tak mi JOSM píše že na této úrovni nejsou žádné dlaždice, nejsou vidět obrysy polí LPIS ale při kliknutí na pole se pole natrasují přikládám výpis z konzole JOSM tion path to requested target javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator. ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderExce ption: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(Unknown Source ) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection. connect (Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.connect(Unknown Sou rce) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 145) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 91) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob. loadObject(J CSCachedTileLoaderJob.java:322) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob.run (JCSCache dTileLoaderJob.java:231) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find vali d certification path to requested target at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.doBuild(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.engineValidate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.Validator.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkTrusted(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Sour ce) ... 18 more Caused by: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Sourc e) at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.engineBuild (Unknown Source) at java.security.cert.CertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Source) ... 24 more 2018-08-22 10:39:09.948 INFO: GET https://eagri.cz/public/app/wms/plpis.fcgi?FOR MAT=image/png&VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=LPIS_FB4,LPIS_ FB4_ KOD&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:32633&WIDTH=512&HEIGHT=512&BBOX=659257.0332987, 5562514.3786 970,664149.0028987,5567406.3482970&TRANSPARENT=true -> !!! 2018-08-22 10:39:09.948 WARNING: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun. securi ty.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security. provide r.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX pa th building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun. securi ty.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certifica tion path to requested target javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator. ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderExce ption: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(Unknown Source ) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection. connect (Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.connect(Unknown Sou rce) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 145) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 91) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob. loadObject(J CSCachedTileLoaderJob.java:322) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob.run (JCSCache dTileLoaderJob.java:231) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find vali d certification path to requested target at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.doBuild(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.engineValidate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.Validator.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkTrusted(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Sour ce) ... 18 more Caused by: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Sourc e) at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.engineBuild (Unknown Source) at java.security.cert.CertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Source) ... 24 more 2018-08-22 10:39:10.338 INFO: GET https://eagri.cz/public/app/wms/plpis.fcgi?FOR MAT=image/png&VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=LPIS_FB4,LPIS_ FB4_ KOD&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:32633&WIDTH=512&HEIGHT=512&BBOX=659257.0332987, 5557622.4090 970,664149.0028987,5562514.3786970&TRANSPARENT=true -> !!! 2018-08-22 10:39:10.338 WARNING: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun. securi ty.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security. provide r.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX pa th building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun. securi ty.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certifica tion path to requested target javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator. ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderExce ption: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(Unknown Source ) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection. connect (Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.connect(Unknown Sou rce) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 145) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 91) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob. loadObject(J CSCachedTileLoaderJob.java:322) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob.run (JCSCache dTileLoaderJob.java:231) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find vali d certification path to requested target at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.doBuild(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.engineValidate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.Validator.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkTrusted(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Sour ce) ... 18 more Caused by: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Sourc e) at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.engineBuild (Unknown Source) at java.security.cert.CertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Source) ... 24 more 2018-08-22 10:39:10.588 INFO: GET https://eagri.cz/public/app/wms/plpis.fcgi?FOR MAT=image/png&VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=LPIS_FB4,LPIS_ FB4_ KOD&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:32633&WIDTH=512&HEIGHT=512&BBOX=649473.0940987, 5557622.4090 970,659257.0332987,5567406.3482970&TRANSPARENT=true -> !!! 2018-08-22 10:39:10.588 WARNING: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun. securi ty.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security. provide r.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX pa th building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun. securi ty.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certifica tion path to requested target javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator. ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderExce ption: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(Unknown Source ) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection. connect (Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.connect(Unknown Sou rce) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 145) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 91) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob. loadObject(J CSCachedTileLoaderJob.java:322) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob.run (JCSCache dTileLoaderJob.java:231) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find vali d certification path to requested target at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.doBuild(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.engineValidate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.Validator.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkTrusted(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Sour ce) ... 18 more Caused by: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Sourc e) at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.engineBuild (Unknown Source) at java.security.cert.CertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Source) ... 24 more 2018-08-22 10:39:14.113 INFO: GET https://eagri.cz/public/app/wms/plpis.fcgi?FOR MAT=image/png&VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=LPIS_FB4,LPIS_ FB4_ KOD&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:32633&WIDTH=512&HEIGHT=512&BBOX=649473.0940987, 5547838.4698 970,659257.0332987,5557622.4090970&TRANSPARENT=true -> !!! 2018-08-22 10:39:14.113 WARNING: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun. securi ty.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security. provide r.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX pa th building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target. P°iŔina: sun. securi ty.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certifica tion path to requested target javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator. ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath. SunCertPathBuilderExce ption: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(Unknown Source ) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsClient.afterConnect(Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.AbstractDelegateHttpsURLConnection. connect (Unknown Source) at sun.net.www.protocol.https.HttpsURLConnectionImpl.connect(Unknown Sou rce) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 145) at org.openstreetmap.josm.tools.HttpClient.connect(HttpClient.java: 91) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob. loadObject(J CSCachedTileLoaderJob.java:322) at org.openstreetmap.josm.data.cache.JCSCachedTileLoaderJob.run (JCSCache dTileLoaderJob.java:231) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Caused by: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find vali d certification path to requested target at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.doBuild(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.engineValidate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.validator.Validator.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.validate(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkTrusted(Unknown Source) at sun.security.ssl.X509TrustManagerImpl.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Sour ce) ... 18 more Caused by: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Sourc e) at sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilder.engineBuild (Unknown Source) at java.security.cert.CertPathBuilder.build(Unknown Source) ... 24 more
  9. majka majka.zem+talk na gmail.com #mcbda8e
    chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda se něco nezměnilo v nastavení traceru LPIS Používám JOSM verze 14177 a když si zvolím vrstvu LPIS tak mi JOSM píše že na této úrovni nejsou žádné dlaždice, nejsou vidět obrysy polí LPIS ale při kliknutí na pole se pole natrasují
    To ale s tracerem nemá nic společného. Je to chyba té mapové vrstvy LPis, resp. chyba JOSM. Dělá mi to občas v jiných zdrojích, pomáhá zapnout další stejnou vrstvu - tedy zkusila bych LPis podruhé, a tu původní poté odmazat. Z mého laického pohledu - některé mapové zdroje potřebují posílat autorizaci, a ta se nenačte správně (dřív než chtějí data). Dělá mi to Bing, kde to je pro mě zcela normální.
  10. Zdeněk Pražák zprazak na seznam.cz #mb2bbb5
    no tak bohužel opětovné otevření LPIS vrstvy nepomohlo, chová se pořád stejně
  11. majka majka.zem+talk na gmail.com #m95e43c
    no tak bohužel opětovné otevření LPIS vrstvy nepomohlo, chová se pořád stejně
    Je třeba hledat problém na straně JOSM, ne na straně pluginu. Ta zobrazovaná vrstva nemá v podstatě s pluginem co dělat.
  12. Zdeněk Pražák ZPrazak na seznam.cz #m9cb8b8
    no bohužel na nahlášení bugu na JOSM nemám potřebné jazykové schopnosti
  13. Marián Kyral mkyral na email.cz #mb2086e
    Ahoj, to vypadá na nějaký problém u tebe. Mi se ta vrstva normálně zobrazí. Můžeš zkusit poslední verzi josm, případně zazálohovat konfiguraci josm a zkusit spustit josm s čistým profilem. Marián
  14. Jan Martinec jan na martinec.name #mdc51cc
    Ahoj, Funguje to v nějaké předchozí verzi? Jinak tahle chyba je z neplatného/neznámého SSL certifikátu (Java má svoji vlastní sadu) - v prohlížečích ty dlaždice jsou vidět? Zdar, Honza "Piškvor" Martinec
  15. Zdeněk Pražák ZPrazak na seznam.cz #m723911
    no ono je to různé, jak jsem vypozoroval tak některé dlaždice LPIS se zobrazí a o kus vedle se opět objeví na obrazovce hláška, že v požadovaném rozlišení nejsou dlaždice k disposici, ale při kliknutí na pole se pole natrasuje
  16. Jan Martinec jan na martinec.name #mdcce1f
    To vypadá, že to servírují z více strojů a ne všechny mají správný SSL certifikát :(
  17. Marián Kyral mkyral na email.cz #meaccf5
    V tom případě se jim jistě někdo dříve či později ozve a dají to dohromady. Marián
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